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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:red'>DEF:4=/var/rrd/data/FA0000000C56E5_5.rrd:pio:AVERAGE <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:red'>CDEF:pump=4,0,GT,INF,0,IF AREA:pump#99ffff:"Pumpe" <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>You are attempting to redefine the value of 4, so things are getting a bit confused. When you use a DEF to define a new variable, you cannot call this variable ‘4’ since that causes confusion. This will work:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:red'>DEF:xxxx=/var/rrd/data/FA0000000C56E5_5.rrd:pio:AVERAGE <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:red'>CDEF:pump=xxxx,0,GT,INF,0,IF AREA:pump#99ffff:"Pumpe" <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>But if you use ‘4’ instead of ‘xxxx’ then the DEF seems to work (it should really produce a syntax error for a disallowed DEF name!) and then the CDEF fails because it thinks the ‘4’ is a number, not the previous DEF, and so there are no variables in the RPN.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I would say this is a minor bug in RRDTool (which version are you using?) in that the syntax checker choked on the CDEF rather than the DEF, but really it is a user error as the DEF is certainly wrong </span><span style='font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#1F497D'>Steve Shipway<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>ITS Unix Services Design Lead<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>University of Auckland, New Zealand<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Floor 1, 58 Symonds Street, Auckland<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#595959'>Phone: +64 (0)9 3737599 ext 86487<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#595959'>DDI: +64 (0)9 924 6487<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#595959'>Mobile: +64 (0)21 753 189<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#595959'>Email: <a href="mailto:s.shipway@auckland.ac.nz"><span style='color:#595959'>s.shipway@auckland.ac.nz</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:blue'> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Narrow","sans-serif";color:green'>Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail</span><span lang=EN-GB style='color:blue'> </span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> rrd-users-bounces+s.shipway=auckland.ac.nz@lists.oetiker.ch [mailto:rrd-users-bounces+s.shipway=auckland.ac.nz@lists.oetiker.ch] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marc<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 25 July 2011 9:05 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> rrd-users@lists.oetiker.ch<br><b>Subject:</b> [rrd-users] rpn expressions without DEF or CDEF Variables are nor supported<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Hello<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I am getting an “rpn expressions without DEF or CDEF Variables are nor supported”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>I located the error in one of the 2 red lines but could not find out how to fix it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Can anybody gif me some helping hands?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>/usr/bin/rrdtool graph /var/www/owserver2/brenner_week.png --start -1week <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DEF:1=/var/rrd/data/A6000801CA47C7.rrd:tmp:AVERAGE <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>LINE1:1#FF9900:"Vorlauf " <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DEF:max1=/var/rrd/data/A6000801CA47C7.rrd:tmp:MAX <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DEF:min1=/var/rrd/data/A6000801CA47C7.rrd:tmp:MIN <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>VDEF:vlinemin1=min1,MINIMUM <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>VDEF:vlinemax1=max1,MAXIMUM <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>GPRINT:max1:MAX:"Maximum.\: %4.1lf %SC " <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>GPRINT:min1:MIN:"Minimum.\: %4.1lf %SC\l" <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DEF:2=/var/rrd/data/67000801CA1064.rrd:tmp:AVERAGE <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>LINE1:2#48C4EC:"Rücklauf " <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DEF:max2=/var/rrd/data/67000801CA1064.rrd:tmp:MAX <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DEF:min2=/var/rrd/data/67000801CA1064.rrd:tmp:MIN <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>VDEF:vlinemin2=min2,MINIMUM <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>VDEF:vlinemax2=max2,MAXIMUM <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>GPRINT:max2:MAX:"Maximum.\: %4.1lf %SC " <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>GPRINT:min2:MIN:"Minimum.\: %4.1lf %SC\l"<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DEF:3=/var/rrd/data/7A00080172AB15.rrd:tmp:AVERAGE <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>LINE1:3#008000:"Aussentemperatur " <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DEF:max3=/var/rrd/data/7A00080172AB15.rrd:tmp:MAX <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>DEF:min3=/var/rrd/data/7A00080172AB15.rrd:tmp:MIN <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>VDEF:vlinemin3=min3,MINIMUM <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>VDEF:vlinemax3=max3,MAXIMUM <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>GPRINT:max3:MAX:"Maximum.\: %4.1lf %SC " <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>GPRINT:min3:MIN:"Minimum.\: %4.1lf %SC\l" <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:red'>DEF:4=/var/rrd/data/FA0000000C56E5_5.rrd:pio:AVERAGE <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:red'>CDEF:pump=4,0,GT,INF,0,IF AREA:pump#99ffff:"Pumpe" <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-h 360 -w 620 -y1:2 --color GRID#dddddd --color MGRID#aaaaaa --color CANVAS#eeeeee HRULE:60#ababab <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=936 style='width:701.65pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:57.25pt'><td width=132 valign=top style='width:99.25pt;padding:0cm 5.75pt 0cm 5.75pt;height:57.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:115%'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Grüße/Regads</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:115%'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Marc Tobien<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:115%'><span style='color:#363FF2'><img border=0 width=48 height=71 id="Bild_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CC4AAF.89BCB640" alt=image004> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=803 valign=top style='width:602.4pt;padding:0cm 5.75pt 0cm 5.75pt;height:57.25pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:115%'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#17365D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p 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