<div dir="ltr"><div>This is my command.<br></div><div><br></div><div>rrdtool create -s 60 testing2.rrd DS:cnt:GAUGE:120:U:U RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:1440 RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:60:720 RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1440:365 </div><div><br></div><div>graph:</div>
<div><br></div><div>rrdtool graph testing2.png -s -1200 -S 1 -a PNG -w 1000 -h 250 -v &quot;testing&quot; DEF:cnt= testing2.rrd:cnt:AVERAGE CDEF:realcnt=cnt,1,*  LINE:realcnt#00A000:Cnt</div><div><br></div><div>Even if I got problem in graph, how do I get not &quot;5&quot; in dump:</div>
<div><br></div><div>                        &lt;!-- 2013-05-16 16:49:00 EEST / 1368712140 --&gt; &lt;row&gt;&lt;v&gt;4.8531933333e+00&lt;/v&gt;&lt;/row&gt;<br>                        &lt;!-- 2013-05-16 16:50:00 EEST / 1368712200 --&gt; &lt;row&gt;&lt;v&gt;0.0000000000e+00&lt;/v&gt;&lt;/row&gt;<br>
                        &lt;!-- 2013-05-16 16:51:00 EEST / 1368712260 --&gt; &lt;row&gt;&lt;v&gt;1.9154833333e-01&lt;/v&gt;&lt;/row&gt;<br>                        &lt;!-- 2013-05-16 16:52:00 EEST / 1368712320 --&gt; &lt;row&gt;&lt;v&gt;4.4032950000e-01&lt;/v&gt;&lt;/row&gt;<br>
                        &lt;!-- 2013-05-16 16:53:00 EEST / 1368712380 --&gt; &lt;row&gt;&lt;v&gt;6.8845091667e-01&lt;/v&gt;&lt;/row&gt;<br>                        &lt;!-- 2013-05-16 16:54:00 EEST / 1368712440 --&gt; &lt;row&gt;&lt;v&gt;9.4017525000e-01&lt;/v&gt;&lt;/row&gt;<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Could anyone *please* run this test?</div><div>create testing db, and gather there data with my script (with real delays one), and not via dumping into file a lot of data in just moment...</div><div>
<br></div><div>I&#39;ll need or confirmation that it&#39;s somehow   my only problem, or we&#39;ll get know that problem elsewhere.</div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2013/5/16 Donovan Baarda <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:abo@minkirri.apana.org.au" target="_blank">abo@minkirri.apana.org.au</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">What does your rrdtool create and graph lines look like? I suspect that&#39;s where the error lies.<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On 16 May 2013 16:01, Alexander Yerenkow <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:yerenkow@gmail.com" target="_blank">yerenkow@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks for hint, but this is working only when invoking at moment of time.<br></div><div>E.g. If I run script </div>

<div><br></div><div>tt=`jot - 1 30`                                                                                                                                                   <br>
for i in $tt                                                                                                                                                      <br>do                                                                                                                                                                <br>


t=`date +&quot;%s&quot;`                                                                                                                                                    <br>rrdtool update testing.rrd $t:5; rrdtool update testing2.rrd N:5;                                                                                                 <br>


sleep 63;                                                                                                                                                         <br>done                                                                                                                                                              </div>


<div><br></div><div>I still  see same seesaw graph (I changed from 61 to 63 to make problem more visible).</div><div>The script was run on fresh created two files, according your command. </div><div>The problem  (if there is problem) lies somewhere in some rounding time, as it seems appear in both files, when I specify N, and time.</div>


<div>Here&#39;s my fresh graphs:</div><div><a href="https://javaz.org/wp-content/testing.rrd-avg.png" target="_blank">https://javaz.org/wp-content/testing.rrd-avg.png</a></div><div><a href="https://javaz.org/wp-content/testing2.rrd-avg.png" target="_blank">https://javaz.org/wp-content/testing2.rrd-avg.png</a></div>


<div><br></div><div>Could you confirm that if you run my script (with real half-hour datamining) you will have same good-looking graph?</div><div><br></div><div>BTW, I&#39;m using rrdtool-1.4.7.</div><div><br></div><div>

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</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/16 Donovan Baarda <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>
G&#39;day Alexander,<div>
<br></div><div>You need to read <a href="http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/doc/rrdcreate.en.html" target="_blank">http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/doc/rrdcreate.en.html</a>, in particular the bit towards the end about &quot;The Heartbeat and the Step&quot;. In particular, heartbeat on the DSS is the *maximum&quot; time between samples, otherwise they are thrown away and recorded as unknown. You can think of step/heartbeat as the &quot;xff&quot; of the input data. In your case I&#39;m guessing using step=60 and heartbeat=120 is probably closest to what you want.</div>



<div><br></div><div>I looked at your seesaw-graphs blog entry and the graph you have looks like a kind of artefact of using a low heartbeat (resulting in very few valid inputs) combined with a low xff or maybe graphing options to interpolate the missing values. When i do the following;</div>



<div><br></div><div>$ rrdtool create -s 60 testing.rrd DS:cnt:GAUGE:120:U:U RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:1440 RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:60:720 RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1440:365</div><div><div>$ t=`date +&quot;%s&quot;`</div><div>$ for ((i=$t; i&lt;$t+60*61; i=$i+61)); do rrdtool update testing.rrd $i:5; done<br>



</div><div><div>$ rrdtool graph testing.png -s $t -S 60 DEF:cnt=testing.rrd:cnt:AVERAGE LINE1:cnt#ff0000:cnt</div></div><div><br></div><div>I get the following graph;</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://minkirri.apana.org.au/~abo/testing.png" target="_blank"></a><br>



</div></div><div><br></div></div><div><div>Which is probably what you expect.</div></div></div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On 15 May 2013 11:03, Alexander Yerenkow <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:yerenkow@gmail.com" target="_blank">yerenkow@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>



</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hello list!</div><div>I&#39;m having problem with GAUGE and non-regular updates of values, I described my problem fully here:<br>



</div><br><a href="https://javaz.org/2013/05/rrdtool-strange-rounding-produces-seesaw-graphs/" target="_blank">https://javaz.org/2013/05/rrdtool-strange-rounding-produces-seesaw-graphs/</a><br>
<br><div>I&#39;d appreciate if you point me to right place where I find why I can&#39;t get what I need.<br clear="all"></div><div><br></div><div>I already tried to tune heartbeat value, but to no avail.</div><span><font color="#888888"><div>



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<br>-- <br>Regards,<br>Alexander Yerenkow
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