[mrtg] Re: NOC overview

[McDonald, Larry]

You might want to look at Whats up Gold... Yeah it is a windows product made
by IPswitch.. It has some nice features cost about $700-1000 depending on
support. It is simple to use and has some nice features...

Larry McDonald
EDS - OnStar
248-577-7041


-----Original Message-----
From: Lemaire, David W. [mailto:dlemaire at ems.com]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 2:00 PM
To: 'Andrew Davis'
Cc: mrtg at list.ee.ethz.ch
Subject: [mrtg] Re: NOC overview



My understanding is that it is free of charge if you are not using it to
monitor customers equipment and charging for that monitoring OR monitoring a
system that is generating revenue.
The license has changed since BB was purchased by Quest software also, and I
have not downloaded or installed it since then. They may have become more
stringent in their licensing.

Dave Lemaire 
PC/UNIX/LAN Admin
603-924-9571 x5102
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-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Davis [mailto:andrew at socallinuxsolutions.com]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:46 PM
To: BB Mailing List
Cc: mrtg at list.ee.ethz.ch
Subject: [mrtg] Re: NOC overview



Got this off the MRTG mailing list. So... could one of the BB guys 
please explain exactly what the licenses mean in light of the newer Pro 
version? I was under the impression that BB was *completely free* for 
use, even in production systems, but that if I wanted support I had to 
pay for it, or more recently, be using the pro version.

Better stated... if I am monitoring 10+ production system, those systems 
being used to generate revenue for my company, am I allowed to use BB 
for free?

AD

John wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 09:55:08AM -0800, Mike Singleton wrote:
> 
>>Anyone know of anything that would give a NOC an overview of the entire
>>network at a glance... a.k.a. Net-Sonar (only free?)
> 
> 
> Well, the biggest open/free one that I know of is Nagios, formerly known
> as Netsaint. It requires some time to setup, but it's a network
> monitoring tool, which is apparantly what you're asking for. 
> 
> There's also NMS and telemetry box (not sure of it's status).
> 
> There are lots of people charging for network monitoring tools out
> there, but AFAIK, Nagios is the most developed free (beer and speech)
> one out there. 
> 
> If you want to use Big Brother (BB) for monitoring stuff that people are
> paying for, it's not free. From their 'better than free' license:
> 
> 1.Non-Commercial Use
> No part of the Big Brother System and Network Monitor may be used for
> any commercial purpose after a 30 day evaluation period without
> obtaining a commercial license from BB4 Technologies Inc. Commercial
> purpose includes any activity engaged for the purpose of directly
> generating revenues including the sale of the product, use of the
> product to provide a service or in support of a service for which you
> charge. 
> 
> it's the 'in support of a service' bit that does you in. 
> 
> Not that BB isn't a decent product, I think it is, but their
> 'better-than-free' license http://bb4.com/license-text.html isn't 'free'
> nor is it better than free. You can't use it for whatever you want and
> you cannot redistribute it without prior written permission. You also
> are required to link to their website with your monitoring page. 
> 
> HTH
> 
> j
> 
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