[smokeping-users] Something Odd With This These Graphs: http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping-demo/?target=Customers.OP.johan

[Tobias Oetiker]

Today Jenny Lee wrote:

>
> > > Hello Everyone,
> > >
> > > http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping-demo/?target=Customers.OP.johan
> > >
> > > If you look at this graph, there is package loss about once a day
> > > (blue lines). That is 1-5% out of the 144 runs a day.
> > >
> > > However, as you go down on the page... at 400 days at the bottom,
> > > whole graph is BLUE!
> > >
> > > Averages are corret, but they are not being graphed properly.
> > >
> > > I have just started with SmokePing (which is a PITA to install on
> > > a RedHat). Is it so hard to roll an rpm?
> > >
> > > Is there also any templates for it? Included ones are... well,
> > > just not for our times.
> >
> > If I remember corectly, the loss consolidation function is using
> > MAX somewhere along the line, so even little losses will stick
> > around through consolidation ...
> >
> > cheers
> > tobi
>
>
> Hello Tobi,
>
> Never mind my criticism, thank you for a great tool. I set it up, put in 3 slaves. All monitoring good so far.
>
> Now the problems:
>
> a. What is the fix for this issue? I don't believe everyone is
> using it like that. The purpose of graphing... is so that we do
> not need to read the fine print. When I looked at that graph, I
> was to have a heart attack. How can I show something like this to
> my boss? I use cacti as well and I don't have this problem.
> Nothing is clear from these graphs beyond a day.

you should, because loss is BAD, it should not happen, hence the
choice of consolidation function ...

> b. The UI needs serious improvements. 70% of my screen is empty.
> Why not to plug in 4 graphs there?

I am planning on moving smokeping to extopus, see www.extopus.org
if you are in a position to provide resources for this project, let
me know ...

> c. What is Speedy CGI? I had hard time trying to find it let
> alone being able to install it?

smokeping 2.6.x does not need speedycgi anymore ...  it uses
fastcgi ... where did you see the speedycgi requirement ?

> d. Do the slaves need all these dependencies? Can't you make a
> stripped down version? Since they don't need any cgi, graphing,
> etc.

graphing is part of rrdtool, so it does not realy appy
>
> e. I had to install 42 rpms to get this working! I had to take 3
> srpms from Fedora and recompile them on Redhat 6. Take Fedora
> SmokePing RPM, recompile on Redhat. Yet, I still have version
> 2.4.2. I spent 2 days. This doesn't have to be so painful!

you should not be using an old version ... bad for the karma ...
2.6.x has autoconf support ...

> Thanks again for all your work (smokeping, mrtg, rrdtool, and all).

cheers
tobi
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