[smokeping-users] Adding my servers to the configuration

Ben Wright benw at coriumintl.com
Wed Nov 4 21:30:42 CET 2015


I have smoke ping working with the default configuration from the ubnuntu 10.04.4 apt-get package, it's just monitoring the localhost.

cmg_admin at gritsvr21:/usr/share/doc/smokeping$ sudo smokeping --version returns:
2.003006

In the doc folder there's a README.Debian file so maybe it's Debian's apt-get package?

I'm following the examples on the smokeping website but can't get my additional servers to show up in the menu structure of the web interface, it looks to be polling them but I'm not sure what else I need to change beside the target configuration and the prob configuration  (for when I add DNS that is)

So after I modify my targets file  to the following:

*** Targets ***

probe = FPing

## You have to edit and uncomment all what you want below this.
# Please, refer to smokeping_config man page for more info
# The given adresses aren't real to avoid DoS.

menu = Top
title = Network Latency Grapher
remark = Welcome to the SmokePing website of 'A poorly \
        mantained site running Debian.'

+ Local

menu = Local
title = Local Network

++ LocalMachine

menu = Local Machine
title = This host
host = localhost

#everything from here on out is new to the Targets file

+ Network

menu = Network
title = Network computers

++ COR-SFO-DC01

menu = COR-SFO-DC01
title = Domain Controller
host = COR-SFO-DC01

++ GRITSVR43

menu = GRITSVR43
title = Domain Controller
host= GRITSVR43

++ GRITSVR44

menu = GRITSVR44
title = Domain Controller
host = GRITSVR44

++ GRITSVR24

menu = GRITSVR24
title = Domain Controller
host = GRITSVR24

I restart smokeping and I get the following in the var/log/messages log:

Nov  4 15:13:24 gritsvr21 smokeping[29115]: got INT signal, terminating.
Nov  4 15:13:27 gritsvr21 smokeping[30448]: Starting syslog logging
Nov  4 15:13:27 gritsvr21 smokeping[30451]: Smokeping version 2.003006 successfully launched.
Nov  4 15:13:27 gritsvr21 smokeping[30451]: Not entering multiprocess mode for just a single probe.
Nov  4 15:13:27 gritsvr21 smokeping[30451]: FPing: probing 5 targets with step 300 s and offset 34 s.

And in the /var/log/apache2/error.log I'll get this:

$
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Use of uninitialized value $hierarchy in substitution (s///) at /usr/share/smokeping/lib/Smokeping.pm line 1542., referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.c$
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping stddev/Network/GRITSVR43 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping stddev/Network/GRITSVR44 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping stddev/Network/COR-SFO-DC01 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping stddev/Network/GRITSVR24 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping max/Network/GRITSVR43 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping max/Network/GRITSVR44 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping max/Network/COR-SFO-DC01 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping max/Network/GRITSVR24 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping loss/Network/GRITSVR43 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping loss/Network/GRITSVR44 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping loss/Network/COR-SFO-DC01 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping loss/Network/GRITSVR24 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping median/Network/GRITSVR43 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping median/Network/GRITSVR44 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping median/Network/COR-SFO-DC01 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping median/Network/GRITSVR24 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping stddev/Network/GRITSVR43 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Duplicate entry stddev/Local/LocalMachine in sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping stddev/Network/GRITSVR44 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping stddev/Network/COR-SFO-DC01 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping stddev/Network/GRITSVR24 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping max/Network/GRITSVR43 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Duplicate entry max/Local/LocalMachine in sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping max/Network/GRITSVR44 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping max/Network/COR-SFO-DC01 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping max/Network/GRITSVR24 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping loss/Network/GRITSVR43 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Duplicate entry loss/Local/LocalMachine in sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping loss/Network/GRITSVR44 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping loss/Network/COR-SFO-DC01 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping loss/Network/GRITSVR24 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping median/Network/GRITSVR43 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Duplicate entry median/Local/LocalMachine in sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping median/Network/GRITSVR44 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping median/Network/COR-SFO-DC01 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts
[Wed Nov 04 15:17:21 2015] [error] [client 192.168.3.82] [Wed Nov  4 15:17:21 2015] smokeping.cgi [client 192.168.3.82]: Warning: Dropping median/Network/GRITSVR24 from sortercache, referer: http://gritsvr21/cgi-bin/smokeping.cgi?target=_charts


My debug log is:
cmg_admin at gritsvr21:/usr/share/doc/smokeping$ sudo smokeping --debug
### Compiling alert detector pattern 'startloss'
### ==S,>0%,>0%,>0%
sub {
    my $d = shift;
    my $y = $d->{loss};
    for(1){
        my $minlength = 4;
        my $maxlength = 4;
        next if scalar @$y < $minlength ;
        next unless defined $y->[-4] and $y->[-4] eq 'S';
        next unless defined $y->[-3]
                        and $y->[-3] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-3] > 0;
        next unless defined $y->[-2]
                        and $y->[-2] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-2] > 0;
        next unless defined $y->[-1]
                        and $y->[-1] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-1] > 0;
        return 1;
    }
    return 0;
}

### Compiling alert detector pattern 'rttdetect'
### <10,<10,<10,<10,<10,<100,>100,>100,>100
sub {
    my $d = shift;
    my $y = $d->{rtt};
    for(1){
        my $minlength = 9;
        my $maxlength = 9;
        next if scalar @$y < $minlength ;
        next unless defined $y->[-9]
                        and $y->[-9] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-9] < 0.01;
        next unless defined $y->[-8]
                        and $y->[-8] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-8] < 0.01;
        next unless defined $y->[-7]
                        and $y->[-7] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-7] < 0.01;
        next unless defined $y->[-6]
                        and $y->[-6] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-6] < 0.01;
        next unless defined $y->[-5]
                        and $y->[-5] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-5] < 0.01;
        next unless defined $y->[-4]
                        and $y->[-4] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-4] < 0.1;
        next unless defined $y->[-3]
                        and $y->[-3] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-3] > 0.1;
        next unless defined $y->[-2]
                        and $y->[-2] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-2] > 0.1;
        next unless defined $y->[-1]
                        and $y->[-1] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-1] > 0.1;
        return 1;
    }
    return 0;
}

### Compiling alert detector pattern 'bigloss'
### ==0%,==0%,==0%,==0%,>0%,>0%,>0%
sub {
    my $d = shift;
    my $y = $d->{loss};
    for(1){
        my $minlength = 7;
        my $maxlength = 7;
        next if scalar @$y < $minlength ;
        next unless defined $y->[-7]
                        and $y->[-7] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-7] == 0;
        next unless defined $y->[-6]
                        and $y->[-6] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-6] == 0;
        next unless defined $y->[-5]
                        and $y->[-5] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-5] == 0;
        next unless defined $y->[-4]
                        and $y->[-4] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-4] == 0;
        next unless defined $y->[-3]
                        and $y->[-3] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-3] > 0;
        next unless defined $y->[-2]
                        and $y->[-2] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-2] > 0;
        next unless defined $y->[-1]
                        and $y->[-1] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-1] > 0;
        return 1;
    }
    return 0;
}

### Compiling alert detector pattern 'someloss'
### >0%,*12*,>0%,*12*,>0%
sub {
    my $d = shift;
    my $y = $d->{loss};
    for(1){
        my $imax2 = min(@$y - 3, 12);
        my $imax1 = min(@$y - 3, 12);
        my $minlength = 3;
        my $maxlength = 27;
        next if scalar @$y < $minlength ;
        my $i1;
        for($i1=0; $i1 < min($maxlength,$imax1); $i1++){
            my $i2;
            for($i2=0; $i2 < min($maxlength-$i1,$imax2); $i2++){
                next unless defined $y->[-3-$i1-$i2]
                                and $y->[-3-$i1-$i2] =~ /^\d/
                                and $y->[-3-$i1-$i2] > 0;
                last;
            }
            return 0 if $i2 >= min($maxlength-$i1-$i2,$imax2);
            next unless defined $y->[-2-$i1]
                            and $y->[-2-$i1] =~ /^\d/
                            and $y->[-2-$i1] > 0;
            last;
        }
        return 0 if $i1 >= min($maxlength-$i1,$imax1);
        next unless defined $y->[-1]
                        and $y->[-1] =~ /^\d/
                        and $y->[-1] > 0;
        return 1;
    }
    return 0;
}



Smokeping version 2.003006 successfully launched.
Not entering multiprocess mode with '--debug'. Use '--debug-daemon' for that.
FPing: probing 5 targets with step 300 s and offset 293 s.
FPing: Executing /usr/bin/fping -C 20 -q -B1 -r1 -i10 GRITSVR24 GRITSVR43 localhost COR-SFO-DC01 GRITSVR44
FPing: Got fping output: 'GRITSVR24    : 1.37 1.72 1.59 1.56 1.57 1.36 1.64 1.69 1.89 1.64 1.69 1.95 1.71 1.87 1.53 1.87 1.43 1.73 1.67 1.51'
FPing: Got fping output: 'GRITSVR43    : 0.51 0.47 0.40 0.33 0.55 0.45 0.55 0.48 0.53 0.50 0.52 0.50 0.45 0.50 0.50 0.50 0.47 0.51 0.51 0.40'
FPing: Got fping output: 'localhost    : 0.05 0.06 0.04 0.02 0.03 0.03 0.03 0.04 0.04 0.04 0.03 0.04 0.03 0.03 0.03 0.04 0.03 0.03 0.03 0.04'
FPing: Got fping output: 'COR-SFO-DC01 : 67.64 72.81 66.86 66.54 71.66 68.75 74.43 70.23 72.37 71.47 68.59 67.67 69.62 67.17 72.45 79.32 72.20 72.23 67.89 71.70'
FPing: Got fping output: 'GRITSVR44    : 0.63 0.61 0.54 0.41 0.46 0.47 0.57 0.54 0.51 0.48 0.56 0.53 0.45 0.60 0.57 0.62 0.56 0.56 0.54 0.51'
Calling RRDs::update(/var/lib/smokeping/Network/GRITSVR43.rrd --template uptime:loss:median:ping1:ping2:ping3:ping4:ping5:ping6:ping7:ping8:ping9:ping10:ping11:ping12:ping13:ping14:ping15:ping16:ping17:ping18:ping19:ping20 1446668658:U:0:5.0000000000e-04:3.3000000000e-04:4.0000000000e-04:4.0000000000e-04:4.5000000000e-04:4.5000000000e-04:4.7000000000e-04:4.7000000000e-04:4.8000000000e-04:5.0000000000e-04:5.0000000000e-04:5.0000000000e-04:5.0000000000e-04:5.0000000000e-04:5.1000000000e-04:5.1000000000e-04:5.1000000000e-04:5.2000000000e-04:5.3000000000e-04:5.5000000000e-04:5.5000000000e-04)
Calling RRDs::update(/var/lib/smokeping/Network/GRITSVR44.rrd --template uptime:loss:median:ping1:ping2:ping3:ping4:ping5:ping6:ping7:ping8:ping9:ping10:ping11:ping12:ping13:ping14:ping15:ping16:ping17:ping18:ping19:ping20 1446668658:U:0:5.4000000000e-04:4.1000000000e-04:4.5000000000e-04:4.6000000000e-04:4.7000000000e-04:4.8000000000e-04:5.1000000000e-04:5.1000000000e-04:5.3000000000e-04:5.4000000000e-04:5.4000000000e-04:5.4000000000e-04:5.6000000000e-04:5.6000000000e-04:5.6000000000e-04:5.7000000000e-04:5.7000000000e-04:6.0000000000e-04:6.1000000000e-04:6.2000000000e-04:6.3000000000e-04)
Calling RRDs::update(/var/lib/smokeping/Network/COR-SFO-DC01.rrd --template uptime:loss:median:ping1:ping2:ping3:ping4:ping5:ping6:ping7:ping8:ping9:ping10:ping11:ping12:ping13:ping14:ping15:ping16:ping17:ping18:ping19:ping20 1446668658:U:0:7.1470000000e-02:6.6540000000e-02:6.6860000000e-02:6.7170000000e-02:6.7640000000e-02:6.7670000000e-02:6.7890000000e-02:6.8590000000e-02:6.8750000000e-02:6.9620000000e-02:7.0230000000e-02:7.1470000000e-02:7.1660000000e-02:7.1700000000e-02:7.2200000000e-02:7.2230000000e-02:7.2370000000e-02:7.2450000000e-02:7.2810000000e-02:7.4430000000e-02:7.9320000000e-02)
Calling RRDs::update(/var/lib/smokeping/Network/GRITSVR24.rrd --template uptime:loss:median:ping1:ping2:ping3:ping4:ping5:ping6:ping7:ping8:ping9:ping10:ping11:ping12:ping13:ping14:ping15:ping16:ping17:ping18:ping19:ping20 1446668658:U:0:1.6700000000e-03:1.3600000000e-03:1.3700000000e-03:1.4300000000e-03:1.5100000000e-03:1.5300000000e-03:1.5600000000e-03:1.5700000000e-03:1.5900000000e-03:1.6400000000e-03:1.6400000000e-03:1.6700000000e-03:1.6900000000e-03:1.6900000000e-03:1.7100000000e-03:1.7200000000e-03:1.7300000000e-03:1.8700000000e-03:1.8700000000e-03:1.8900000000e-03:1.9500000000e-03)
Calling RRDs::update(/var/lib/smokeping/Local/LocalMachine.rrd --template uptime:loss:median:ping1:ping2:ping3:ping4:ping5:ping6:ping7:ping8:ping9:ping10:ping11:ping12:ping13:ping14:ping15:ping16:ping17:ping18:ping19:ping20 1446668658:U:0:3.0000000000e-05:2.0000000000e-05:3.0000000000e-05:3.0000000000e-05:3.0000000000e-05:3.0000000000e-05:3.0000000000e-05:3.0000000000e-05:3.0000000000e-05:3.0000000000e-05:3.0000000000e-05:3.0000000000e-05:4.0000000000e-05:4.0000000000e-05:4.0000000000e-05:4.0000000000e-05:4.0000000000e-05:4.0000000000e-05:4.0000000000e-05:5.0000000000e-05:6.0000000000e-05)

What am I missing? I couldn't find much that pointed me in any directions on the gmane archive of the list.

Thanks in advance and I hope this is enough info to work with.



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