[smokeping-users] Losspatterns

Gregory Sloop gregs at sloop.net
Thu Feb 11 17:48:56 CET 2016

HCDas> hello,

HCDas> is there any way to create a losspattern which only fires when there is
HCDas> loss on the last hops? Actually we are getting alot of false positive
HCDas> mails, because there is packetloss in the middle of the trace which doesnt
HCDas> bother anyone.

HCDas> thanks beforehand!

I'm not sure what you're talking about.
There's two situations I can envision that might match what you're saying. [But, as you'll see, it still doesn't make much sense.]

Option 1) There's packet loss in the "middle" of your connection somewhere - but there's nothing you can do about it since it's not in a network you have any control over. [I still expect you'd want to _know_ about it - so complaining about notices seems odd. On a side note: I don't send notices directly from smokeping. I use Nagios for *reporting* of smokeping events. It's not as fine grained as smokeping in the alert patterns, but it is a LOT better squelching, setting alert hours, and groups etc. Since I use Nagios for other monitoring tasks, it's a no brainer to use the smokeping plug-in and avoid using smokeping for alerts all together.]

Option 2) There's actually no packet loss, but if you do a trace-route one of the hops in the middle won't respond to you. As I understand this, this happens when a router is configured to give ICMP traffic low priority, and it's very heavily loaded. Thus, virtually all traffic IS being handled, but responses to low priority traffic like ICMP gets sporadically dropped. But this second case shouldn't show up in a standard FPING test. Further, it's a warning sign that something IS dropping traffic, even if it's "only" ICMP. [And, thus, I don't think it's a false-alarm. It's just an early warning that some traffic is being lost. And you'll probably find that latency sensitive, or packet-loss sensitive traffic IS affected - but you personally may not have a much or any of those types of traffic so you don't get complaints. My experience is that regular users probably won't complain until packet loss reaches >15%. But things like VPN tunnels and the like will run very badly in a 15% loss case. Browsing the web probably won't be noticeable enough to generate a complaint for must users.]

So, the question you pose is quite confusing.

I do have a setup in smokeping where certain triggers cause an MTR [Matts trace route - which is much like Window's Pathping.] This gives me the stats to evaluate exactly where the loss is, and it's nature so I can exert pressure on whomever needs to address the issue. And it prevents the vendor from weaseling out by claiming the loss is happening elsewhere outside their network. [Most effective on first or last hops, since we usually pay these vendors directly.]

So, clarify your situation - because I'm not at all sure I understand, or have offered anything of value.

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