[rrd-developers] [mrtg-developers] Making MRTG work with rrdcached

Tobias Oetiker tobi at oetiker.ch
Wed Sep 15 09:51:01 CEST 2010


Hi Steve,

Today Steve Shipway wrote:

> > Steve said
> > > Is anyone currently working on making MRTG 2.16.x work correctly with
> > > rrdcached (RRDTool 1.4.x)?
>
> Tobi said
> > sounds interesting ... there are ideas on how to make updatev work
> > in rrdcached mode. It would require more of the functionality of
> > rrdtool to happen in memory before flushing data to disk. This
> > should be possible but it would require some rather involved heart
> > surgery.
>
> I couldn't wait, and started hacking :)
>
> I've submitted a small patch for MRTG that makes it
> rrdcached-aware, although for now it simply disables threshold
> checking and uses update rather than updatev.
>
> I've been hacking rrd_daemon.c to make it support INFO and LAST
> (done!) and I'm looking at making it support create.  For INFO
> and LAST, I've used the time on the rrd file itself rather than
> in the queue, since any calls to GRAPH and FETCH will bypass the
> cache anyway.  This also makes it much easier :).  For CREATE,
> there's a bit more of an issue since we probably want to prevent
> absolute pathnames; however, noone would be stupid enough to run
> their rrdcached as root now, would they...?  Maybe I should
> reject absolute paths if UID==0?
>
> Once these are done, I need to sort out the main functions to use
> rrdcached for these three, and finally get MRTG to recognise the
> features and use them.
>
> I've been shying away from the updatev function since, as Tobi
> says, it requires rather deep work to query the values still in
> the cache queue.  For INFO and LAST, and possibly even GRAPH and
> FETCH, you could get away with ignoring the cache queue and just
> reading from the RRD file (call a FLUSH before your graph/fetch
> if it bothers you) but you can't really do this with updatev.
>
> I wonder if the rrdgraph command could be supported by returning
> the graph image as a huge base64-encoded blob?  It would need to
> force a flush beforehand... (goes off to think)

steve,

note that rrdtool trunk supports remote graph commands (and fetch)
there is a special syntax, so that you can include data from
different remote locations into the same graph.

cheers
tobi

>
> Steve
>
> Steve Shipway
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