[rrd-users] Graph discontinuity or jump
aleksandr.pasechnik at gmail.com
Fri Apr 29 01:57:07 CEST 2011
The actual data within the rrd dump also has the strange incorrect value. It is not really a graphing issue. It seems to have disappeared now that I've switched to LAST for the 1 primary data point per row RRA. It is still very strange to me that it would give such a strange, out of range, value. It makes me feel uncomfortable with fully trusting rrdtool with information. I just wish I knew what was causing the jump. And i have 288 pixels as the width of the graph, which is also the number of 5 minute intervals in a 24 hour period, if i'm not mistaken is what you get if you plot --start now-1d --end now.
Any hints as to what might be causing this? Or should I go code diving?
On Apr 28, 2011, at 12:14 AM, Ryan Kubica wrote:
> You should check the real rrd data -- or widen that graph to avoid pixel averaging. rrdtool will take the data in the time frame and divide by the pixel width which gives X datapoints per pixel. Perhaps it's averaging that pixel down due to missing datapoints in the pixel.
> From: Aleksandr Pasechnik <aleksandr.pasechnik at gmail.com>
> To: rrd-users at lists.oetiker.ch
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [rrd-users] Graph discontinuity or jump
> But what could possibly cause rrdtool to interpolate wildly down? Is it somehow taking a U reading, considering it a zero, and interpolating with that? I would understand it if it took the old 1015.8 and the new 1012.8, and got something in between... a 1014 or something. But it doesn't do that! The "interpolated" number is outside the range of *any* previously seen datapoints, actually. Is this a bug? Or an undocumented feature? What is going on?
> (a question of etiquette: should I be including all of the previous text from the ongoing thread, or just the bits I am responding to?)
> On Apr 27, 2011, at 4:11 AM, Jaime Lozano wrote:
> > Hello Aleksandr,
> > What you tell is very detailed. I don't know what is happening to your
> > graph. I don't know if this will help you. But remember that rrdtool
> > don't stores real data. I mean that maybe rrdtool is interpolating and
> > that's why the graph is not as exactly as you think it should be.
> > bye
> > 2011/4/27 Aleksandr Pasechnik:
> >> Hello all!
> >> I have an rrd collecting meteorological data. It has a step of 300 seconds and data is fairly reliably entered every 150 seconds. There are times when my computer is off and no data is entered. Explicit U's would be entered if there was a problem getting the data, but I haven't encountered that yet. The strange thing is that I have been getting these big, unexplained jumps in the graphs (with corresponding strange numbers in the rrd dump) after blank periods. The parameter in question (it happens to the others sometimes, but for some reason this last time it only manifested in this one) is the atmospheric pressure. It is stored as a GAUGE with a heartbeat of 600, a min of 0 and a max of U. I've got some RRA's, namely Average, Min, and Max at xff 0.1, 1 data point, and 7340 rows (30 days of data i think); and xff 0.5, 12 data points, and 44040 rows (5 years of data). I'm currently plotting the last 24 hours of data with a resolution of one pixel per data point. Before the b
> >> k occurred, my script was writing 1015.8 into the pressure. Once the computer came back up, it was entering 1012.8 and 1012.4 (a bit of sensor noise between measurements i suppose). At no point did i write a 1008.9 or whatever its plotting there. Here is the offending graph output:
> >> http://russkey.tumblr.com/post/4971101013/jumping-rrdtool
> >> Any thoughts why this is happening? Anything I can do to stop it? I thought it might have something to do with the xff, so i changed it from 0.5 to 0.1 for the 1 data point per row RRA's but that doesn't seem to have helped. Though now that I think about it, perhaps it would make more sense to have just a single RRA for the 1 data point per row section, and have it a Last instead of an Average? Any help at all would be appreciated!
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