[smokeping-users] Something Odd With This These Graphs: http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping-demo/?target=Customers.OP.johan

[Josh Luthman]

I am far from an expert and I figured it out.  I started from scratch (there
are no packages for me).

Josh Luthman
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On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Bill Houle <bhoule at siliconexus.com> wrote:

>  SmokePing installation is a bear. But while I completely agree the RPM
> approach certainly would have helped my own painful install, I just don't
> get the tactic of saying "it was easier to do 2.4.2" and then picking apart
> the old code.
>
> This is an open-source tool for _any_ platform, not just for LSB. The
> caretakers probably have enough to do with source, they can't also maintain
> installable packages for all platform types. That takes the community.
> Barring that, any streamlining from the developer side such as Makemaker,
> autoconf, or Configure is much appreciated.
>
> Reliance on RPM alone has pitfalls. I was surprised to find that the
> "current" Apache RPM is by no means current. And this is for a ubiquitous
> tool! RPM may be "easy", but its not always the holy grail answer.
>
> --bill
>
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> On 10/5/2011 3:05 AM, Jenny Lee wrote:
>
>  > > Now the problems:
> > >
> > > a. What is the fix for this issue? I don't believe everyone is
> > > using it like that. The purpose of graphing... is so that we do
> > > not need to read the fine print. When I looked at that graph, I
> > > was to have a heart attack. How can I show something like this to
> > > my boss? I use cacti as well and I don't have this problem.
> > > Nothing is clear from these graphs beyond a day.
> >
> > you should, because loss is BAD, it should not happen, hence the
> > choice of consolidation function ...
>
> So there is not a single functional host out of the 30-40 listed on the
> demo site? Because all of them are FULL BLUE in 400 days graphs.
>
> Just because there is 1% loss in 1 out of the 144 probes run does not mean
> that entire day should be marked as having packet loss.
>
> There is some flaw here and those graphs surely would look bad to anyone
> who looks at them. But just 400 packets out of the 6 Million or so were
> dropped in fact.
>
> Is there any way I can fix those by taking aggregates or averages or
> something else?
>
>
> > > b. The UI needs serious improvements. 70% of my screen is empty.
> > > Why not to plug in 4 graphs there?
> >
> > I am planning on moving smokeping to extopus, see www.extopus.org
> > if you are in a position to provide resources for this project, let
> > me know ...
>
> It has potential. Unfortunately, I am just a worker.
>
>
> > > c. What is Speedy CGI? I had hard time trying to find it let
> > > alone being able to install it?
> >
> > smokeping 2.6.x does not need speedycgi anymore ... it uses
> > fastcgi ... where did you see the speedycgi requirement ?
>
> SpeedyCGI requirement was still there in 2011 even though last version of
> that software was abandoned 9 years ago! It is still coming with the Fedora
> SmokePing RPM released in 2011.
>
>
> > > e. I had to install 42 rpms to get this working! I had to take 3
> > > srpms from Fedora and recompile them on Redhat 6. Take Fedora
> > > SmokePing RPM, recompile on Redhat. Yet, I still have version
> > > 2.4.2. I spent 2 days. This doesn't have to be so painful!
> >
> > you should not be using an old version ... bad for the karma ...
> > 2.6.x has autoconf support ...
>
> Tobi, very few people run software with autoconf any more. I did run it.
> And it installed about 200 dependencies (thankfully to /opt/smokebin). I
> just needed Config::Grammar!
>
> I had to edit one file. I had to edit another. I had to modify some more. I
> had to change permissions... Then I had to write an initscript to start
> it... That is why we have RPM to take care of these stuff for us. It quickly
> got tiring so I powered off the non-persistent VM and installed 2.4.2 from
> Fedora RPMs.
>
> RPM approach is something that should be considered for widespread
> adoptation of sofware.
>
> Jenny
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